Crochet More Conversation, Less Concentration Shawl
You know how it is, you get gabbing or watching TV and the only thing you finish in the end is the dessert tray. This shawl was designed for more conversation and less concentration. This is my Crochet More Conversation Shawl.
There is an easy repeat pattern involved. The Criss Crosses give it a tad of texture without a lot of thought to it. The Caron Big Cakes naturally create the striping you see. The colour is called Afternoon Tea.
Suppose you are looking for an easy prayer shawl or something to create in the company of others. This may be your future project.
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More Conversation Shawl
Easy, by Michael Sellick, 50” wide across top span x 32” tall. Using 1 ball is 50” which is average size but I think it should be a bit bigger. The pattern is adjustable to suit your needs.
Materials
- 2 Balls – Caron Big Cakes, Afternoon Tea
- Hook: 5.5 mm / I Hook
Abbreviations
- Beg = Beginning
- Ch = Chain
- Fpdc = Front Post Double Crochet
- Rep = Repeat
- Picot = Ch 3. Sl st back into last sc
- worked.
- Sc = Single Crochet
- Sl st = Slip Stitch
- Sk = Skip
- Sp = Space
- St = Stitch
- Tog = Together
Special Stitches
Beg X-st = Ch 3 (counts as st), 1 dc in next st. Working behind last worked dc, 1 dc in same st as ch-3. Counts as 3 sts.
X-sts = Skip next sc. 1 dc in next sc. Working behind last worked dc, 1 dc in skipped st.
Instructions
Ch 3, sl st to first ch to form a ring.
Row 1: Ch 3 (counts as st here and throughout), 3 dc in ring. Ch 2. 4 dc in ring. Turn. 4 sts per side, 8 sts total.
Row 2: Ch 1, 1 sc in each st to corner. 4 sc in ch-2 corner space. 1 sc in each to end. Turn. 6 sts per side. 12 sts in total.
Row 3: Ch 3, dc in same st. 1 dc in each sc to the 1st sc in the group of 4-sc in the ch-2 sp corner below. (2 dc in the next sc, ch 2, 2 dc in next sc – corner made. 1 dc in each sc to 2nd last st. 2 dc in final sc. Turn. 8 sts per side, 16 sts total.
Row 4: Beg x-st, x-st to next corner. (2 dc, ch 2, 2 dc) in corner. X-st to end. 1 dc in the same last st used by the x-st. Turn. 4 x-st per side, 11 sts per side, 22 sts total.
Row 5: Ch 3, dc in same st. 1 dc in each st to corner. (2 dc, ch 2, 2 dc) in corner. 1 dc in each st to 2nd last st. 2 dc in final st. Turn. 14 dc per side, 28 sts total.
Row 6: Ch 1, 1 sc in each st to corner. 4 sc in ch-2 corner space. 1 sc in each to end. Turn. 16 sts per side. 32 sts in total.
Repeat Rows 3 – 6: 9 more times or until you get your desired size.
Final Edge
Row 1: Ch 1, sc, Picot. Sc in next st. *sc in next st, picot, sc in next st. Repeat * all the way across.
There are no special stitches required for the corner as you will use all single crochets across. Fasten off and weave in ends.
Can you please explain row 6 for me. It is written that there should be 17 sts on each side but I don’t get it. If I count the ch 1 then one side will have 17 sts but the other side only 16 sts. I also notice that with the dc row you have 2 sts in the beginning st as well as the end. I am no designer only somebody that loves crochet.
Thank you for the pattern
I think you emailed me this morning on this topic and you have figured out a solution. I have responded back already.
Minor typo… In pdf, Row 3 – the first corner stitch should be a dc, not a sc. Love this pattern!
I’m going to ask testers to step in and help me. I have revised this several times and I cannot seem to get it right. I am debating on retiring the pattern.
Where can I find the pdf for this pattern, conversation shawl ?
I’m going off the written instructions on this blog, but I’m having a hard time figuring out how my stitches increase beyond row 6.
Thank you!
The pdf can be found using the blue button that says pattern. The written does not have the stitch counts after row 6. His note reads that the increases are 6 stitches per row (3 stitches per side). So row 7 will be 40 stitches, row 8 will be 46 and so on
I don’t see that on the PDF. Are you looking at the latest revision?
I have a different version on my system. I think I have a link to PDF Mix up.
No no no Mikey do not retire that pattern ever! I followed your directions and it came out perfect absolutely perfect! I’ve been crocheting for a very long time and I’m 64 years old this is a wonderful pattern! Klelia O.
Mikey, could you please check the written pattern for this great shawl. The row after the SC row doesn’t have the corner instructions written the same way as you show it on the video. I changed it on my written pattern, so I would remember how you showed it. But if someone uses the written pattern without watching you, they will not have the same results. Have a great day. You are such an inspiring teacher.
I’m examining the difference and going to update the pdf. Thanks for the heads up.
Updated… thanks for the update.
You’re the best, Thank You!
Couldn’t agree more 🙂
Hello, Its me again.
I wanted to ask if the chain 2’s are counted in the final count on each row? Like on row 5 it says 15 dc on each side for a total of 30 sts total. Is that counting the chain 2’s also? Because I only count 14 on each side and then i just added a chain each on both sides to add up to 15. I know I’m probably making it harder than it is. I am really getting myself confused! So embarrasing! thank you again.
If you look in round one is say’s counts as a stitch here and throughout, the chining at the beginning of a row it is counted as a stitch, and the end of the 5th row says 2 stitches in the last stitch which is how you’re getting the extra stitch on that side too. hope that helps
Yes it does! Thank you very much Marina!
Hi again!
I also wanted to say that I have been having trouble at row six since I started. I cannot get 34 stitches, it keeps coming out to 32. And I do have 30 stitches in Row five. I double-checked several times. But when I do the sc and then 4 sc in corner, then sc in the rest, I only get 32 stitches total. I don’t know what I am doing wrong. I just know I have Row five right with 15 on each side. Please help!
Do you think the Tutorial needs to be redone? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WIi6G0_JPw
Hey, I’m definitely out of the league when it comes to your creations and patterns! I’m barely intermediate!! I don’t want to tell you to do the video over. I’m sure yours is correct. It’s just that no matter how many times I frog it and then do it again I get 32 stitches instead of 34 on the sixth row. And the fifth one’s count is exactly as you state, 30 stitches with the increases. Do you think it will do okay if I continue with the 32?
I would try it and see. I cannot tell from my desk here. Just try and see what you think.
My sister is not able to follow the written pattern. On row 3 there are more stitches on the right side. It’s throws off the whole pattern. Do you have a correction yet. Amalia
I have corrected this for the 4th time. I am debating to pull it offline. I cannot seem to get this one right.
I’m not able to duplicate the error you are having. Can you draw a crochet diagram and email me a picture of it. [email protected]
Hi again Mikey!
I also wanted to say that I have been having trouble at row six since I started. I cannot get 34 stitches, it keeps coming out to 32. And I do have 30 stitches in Row five. I double-checked several times. But when I do the sc and then 4 sc in corner, then sc in the rest, I only get 32 stitches total. I don’t know what I am doing wrong. I just know I have Row five right with 15 on each side. Please help!
I started crocheting this shawl for my grandmother and LOVE how it looks but….the long edge that would sit behind your neck and over your shoulders is not a straight line, it is tapering downwards. I wish that I could attach a photo to show you what it is doing. I am not the fastest crocheter and got a few hours of work in and had to rip the whole thing out. Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong?!?! I have been crocheting for 10 years and have done many different projects and this has never happened to me before.
when you lay in down flat, is the spot happening right in the center? where your starting point would be? if so I have had that happen on a shawl or two, sometimes changing hook size helps, but most of the time I do a single crochet along that side, then block and I find it’s fine afterwards.
I have been crocheting avidly for the last several years and most recently have made 2 prayer shawls. I found your “more conversation shawl”, and now that it is almost finished, I am not happy with it. I also found discrepancies between the video and written instructions which confused and frustrated me! Even though I have taken the time to count and keep it even and therefore NOT had conversation while making it, the long edge is not even, the back is really long, and I am ready to rip out the whole thing! Trying to decide whether to even finish it.
discrepancies do sometimes happen between the written and the video. mistakes do happen when the final pattern is sent in to be made up into the files you download. it is always helpful when people find them and let us know what and where they are in the pattern so that we can get it fixed. The video is usually always correct.
It’s ok to use your own judgement to crochet this or many other patterns about which you may have a question. If you’re relatively new to the craft, you likely want “rules 1 through 10” clearly stated. Otherwise, go with what you feel is the best approach, even changing the design if that’s what appeals to you. Even the best designers and companies who carry those designs sometimes deviate from written, chart, and/or video. I consider most of those subject to my own interpretation anyway.
I totally agree with this, there are a lot of patterns I start with following then somewhere in the middle I decide i want to tweak and it ends up most times different than what I started with. I just think of patterns as suggestions.
I definitely do often alter patterns as I go to suit my own sense of aesthetics. However, in this pattern, although I did try to make adjustments and assumed I would be able to even things out a bit with a row of single crochets at the end, it wasn’t until I got towards the end that I could get a sense of how it would lay as a shawl, and once I did, I was really disappointed. I did end up ripping the whole thing out!
What really bothered me was that this was billed as a project where you didn’t have to pay as much attention or do any counting, and I feel that was really misleading.
I’m sorry for misleading you. Phyliss, would you prefer I pull it offline? I can if you want me to. I didn’t really have to do much counting myself and thus why I said that. Maybe I shouldn’t be speaking from my point of view and just be more generic? I may need to alter the way I describe techniques. I will take this as a lesson learned.
Not this Phyllis – not me – who might have suggested you take it off-line. I think its a terrific pattern and have made it twice. Thanks for sharing!
I’m going to re-review this and see if I can change up the statement to not be so easy in execution.
Please Mikey NEVER take this patter6OFF it’s the best shawl I’ve ever used and I’m sure most would agree! Only change I personally would insert is to go through front and back stitches for a secured stitch. Other than that your great! Kee Orr
I am trying to find the written pattern for this shawl. I love the project. Please help!
Whether I do the sc going into the dc I’m a bit confused are you going into the front loop or front and back loops together? So far I have just been using the front loop only, which so far has been turning out. Did not see full written pattern. Which would have answered my question. Lovely pattern thus so far. Thanks Mrs. O
I did another shawl USING BOTH FRONT & BACK LOOPS and it came out PERFECT. My suggestion would be to use front and both loops. It makes structually a lot more secured weave. Mrs.O
Great suggestion.
I am having a little trouble that I need your help with. When I get to an X row my X’s seem to come out at a uneven number. Not counting the none x’s the first row was five and the next row of x’s was 9. All the other rows come out on and even number. I remember you saying in your video that everything will be in groups of 2.
I love following you on Facebook and watching your tutorials. I have learned a lot. I do have a question regarding the x’s in general and in this pattern. Is there an adverse affect to the pattern if your x’s cross in the front instead of the back? I started the millennial shawl before watching the tutorial and had already started the x’s by crossing over the front. I thought it came out okay and was easier for me. I wanted to see if there was really a difference or if it was okay as long as you do them all the same. Thank you!
You can cross over either way. Just be consistent. 😀
I’ve been crocheting since I was five. Now that I’m 82 I think I’m somewhat experienced – enough so to comment. What an excellent video !!! Good job, young man. 🙂
That’s a long time to crochet! I bet you’ve made some pretty awesome things over that time frame! Thanks for the compliment.
Hi Mikey! I learned to crochet from you about 7 years ago, and I have to thank you for making me LOVE crochet. I started with your color burst granny square tutorial and you had me at the part where you were reading a book upside down…haha! Your tutorials are so wonderful and I love watching all of your posts. So, thank you!
Anywho, can I make this using a bulky weight yarn? My mom wants one to use instead of a jacket, but I’d like it to be a little heavier for her.
I wan to make this shawl using a fine yarn can I make it as big as I want just but crocheting and many rows as needed?
Yes, it’s a limitless pattern. Go as big as you need.
Michael
This is a beautiful shawl. Thank goodness for the tutorial because your pattern has flaws. I’m advanced and still got lost….please! a trial run of written patterns before publication……I mean where are these single crochets referenced in the ‘X-sts’ instructions; the row below is DC’s?…..that’s one example. I’m still going to finish. And I do love it. Thanks
All of these patterns are great….love listening to Mike teaching new patterns. Now if I can just download some of them…
I’ve been following you on The Crochet Crowd and love your patterns and your enthusium. I would love being one of your subscribers!
Priscilla
Would it be ok to start this pattern with a magic circle instead of the ch3?
You can yes.
I love this pattern! One question: you have the definition of FPDC at the top of the pattern but I don’t see any FPDC in the pattern. Am I missing something?
I use a template for the patterns. I probably left it in from a previous pattern. I’m sorry.
Hi Mikey! I came across your beautiful pattern here a couple weeks ago. I am finally going to tackle it. I wanted to ask when you are doing a chain two for the corner are they counted as stitches? I am getting my count all messed up and I just wanted to be sure I should count those as well. Thank you!